RIP Nyan Cats.

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RIP Nyan Cats.

by bigfoot547 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 21:41

Nyan cats have to go. We have made their replacements: #1658. Let's all have a moment of silence for nyan cats. Please all say something profound about these pop-tart nodes that have made all of our lives better. Here is the video: Watch 4 ever!
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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by red-001 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 21:53

Not copyright, trademarks. Not that it makes it any better.
 

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by MineYoshi » Thu Mar 23, 2017 23:06

Well... Nyan Cats will always be in our hearts :^)
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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by BBmine » Fri Mar 24, 2017 00:38

Now I know why I called the nyan cats "Nyan puppies". And I didn't even know about this! I've been calling it that for a few months. XD
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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by sofar » Fri Mar 24, 2017 00:41

FTR

The nyan cat is trademarked. The trademark owner has asserted and defended their trademark when people used it for commercial purposes. They also stated that non-commercial use is OK.

Minetest_game is permissively licensed and (apart from the nyan cat) has no -non-commercial- parts.

This nyan cat prevents anyone from doing several things with minetest_game:

- asking people to pay for joining a server
- making a video and putting it on youtube with advertising to make some money for a server
- using minetest_game in a company that offers private tutoring to kids
- using minetest_game in any setting that is not a strict non-for-profit setting, like holding a LAN party in your office

We believe that minetest_game shouldn't restrict any of these uses, hence the removal.

(I won't discuss the details of the removal in this thread. How we remove it and whether we replace it should be a different discusion/thread).
 

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by bigfoot547 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 03:23

Geez sofar, this was a joke you know. Not a legal document. :P
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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by sofar » Fri Mar 24, 2017 04:09

bigfoot547 wrote:Geez sofar, this was a joke you know. Not a legal document. :P


gheghe I know. It's not bad to plainly explain what happened, though...
 

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by stoneminer » Sun Mar 26, 2017 22:37

Goodbye, nyan cats...so sorry to see you go.
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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by Jordach » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:43

sofar wrote:FTR

The nyan cat is trademarked. The trademark owner has asserted and defended their trademark when people used it for commercial purposes. They also stated that non-commercial use is OK.

Minetest_game is permissively licensed and (apart from the nyan cat) has no -non-commercial- parts.

This nyan cat prevents anyone from doing several things with minetest_game:

- asking people to pay for joining a server
- making a video and putting it on youtube with advertising to make some money for a server
- using minetest_game in a company that offers private tutoring to kids
- using minetest_game in any setting that is not a strict non-for-profit setting, like holding a LAN party in your office

We believe that minetest_game shouldn't restrict any of these uses, hence the removal.

(I won't discuss the details of the removal in this thread. How we remove it and whether we replace it should be a different discusion/thread).

But allow DMCA'ing those Chinese iOS clients....

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by Leshinforge » Wed Mar 29, 2017 18:16

Never forget the iconic flying poptart kitty. :(

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by sofar » Wed Mar 29, 2017 20:51

Jordach wrote:But allow DMCA'ing those Chinese iOS clients....


No, you can only file DMCA requests for Copyright Violations, not trademark violations.

Ref: http://www.lexology.com/library/detail. ... 215ce60a6d

EDIT: upon reading your post again I think you may have meant "nyan cat in minetest would be relicensed to CC-BY-NC" which does in deed potentially allow a DMCA request, but without source code we can't prove that they took an older version. Plus the IOS clients are usually only Clients, not Servers, in which case the server artwork is irrelevant.
 

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by TenPlus1 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 07:07

For anyone interested here is PB&J Pup (redo) which contains the original Nyan Cat alongside the PB&J Pup and has both spawning in world by default... It uses the new 'pbj_pup_generate' setting to turn spawning on/off, has sounds removed (never liked those), candies removed so that rainbows are always in use and textures have been optimized: https://github.com/tenplus1/pbj_pup
 

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by sofar » Thu Mar 30, 2017 18:01

TenPlus1 wrote:For anyone interested here is PB&J Pup (redo) which contains the original Nyan Cat alongside the PB&J Pup and has both spawning in world by default... It uses the new 'pbj_pup_generate' setting to turn spawning on/off, has sounds removed (never liked those), candies removed so that rainbows are always in use and textures have been optimized: https://github.com/tenplus1/pbj_pup


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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by sorcerykid » Thu Mar 30, 2017 18:26

Afaik the Nyan Cat image itself is also protected by copyright. Whether it's enforced or not is a different question. But most artistic works (visual works, literary works, architectural works, musical works, and many others) are automatically protected by copyright in the U.S. for a designated period, depending on when the work was created, regardless of whether the artistic work is actually registered with the Copyright Office. The only exception is if the copyright is specifically waived by the author or licensed otherwise for certain uses.
 

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by TumeniNodes » Fri Mar 31, 2017 03:15

<cough... cough... COUGH.>
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as I said, keeps the rainbow
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pot can be used for any number of uses after found
the pros are endless and outweigh any cons

who wants to help me create it? (it's gonna need a model and an api) I can do textures and "some" coding

<edit> just thought, someone could even create a Leprechaun mob which protects them, and you have to fight them to get the pot... and maybe you even win something else special for defeating the Leprechaun as well.

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by twoelk » Fri Mar 31, 2017 04:19

TumeniNodes wrote:<cough... cough... COUGH.>
...<snip>...
as I said, keeps the rainbow
...<snippity>...
who wants to help me create it? (it's gonna need a model and an api) I can do textures and "some" coding
...<snap>...


there have been other rainbow mods that might be of interest for a running start.

well actually only Basic Rainbow [rainbow] really does add rainbows and if you are fast enough you may even find a pot of gold. Don't know wether this works underground though
 

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by TumeniNodes » Fri Mar 31, 2017 04:40

twoelk wrote:
TumeniNodes wrote:<cough... cough... COUGH.>
...<snip>...
as I said, keeps the rainbow
...<snippity>...
who wants to help me create it? (it's gonna need a model and an api) I can do textures and "some" coding
...<snap>...


there have been other rainbow mods that might be of interest for a running start.

well actually only Basic Rainbow [rainbow] really does add rainbows and if you are fast enough you may even find a pot of gold. Don't know wether this works underground though


hmmm, I'll check them out..
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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by red-001 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 14:20

ABJ wrote:Who the hell is using nyan cat as a trademark?

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by ABJ » Sun Apr 02, 2017 14:52

Ah ok, then it's ok. I thought some big corp had enslaved the 'cat. Though I wasn't expecting him to be this harsh though.
 

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Re: RIP Nyan Cats.

by MineYoshi » Sun Apr 02, 2017 21:58

ABJ wrote:Ah ok, then it's ok. I thought some big corp had enslaved the 'cat. Though I wasn't expecting him to be this harsh though.

Well, the Nyan cat is just an internet meme. I don't see any reason that a big Company like Coke Cola or Microsoft would like to buy it...
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